Talk:Main Page/Archive 1


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diy
http://www.mediafire.com/file/uhq8glixrenr3dn/You%20must%20DIY.avi --unsigned comment by 24.11.229.14
 * Can you please explain what the purpose is of this video file, specifically addressing whether it is in compliance with copyright law and whether it contains adult content? Eighty5cacao 13:10, 15 January 2011 (MST)


 * It was part of Tepples instructing his grandma over the phone over how to upload a project that he and I was working on (but forgot to do so himself before he came over) so we could watch it, and using this wiki as if it were a pastebin happened to be easy to explain to her --Nova Storm the Yoshifox 13:41, 15 January 2011 (MST)
 * Most of the video contains graphics from a video game copyrighted to Nintendo, but after the Suicide Girls debacle, NOA has decided not to enforce much of a fanwork ban on non-commercial non-pornographic derivatives. Nintendo head Satoru Iwata put it this way: "it would not be appropriate if we treated people who did something based on affection for Nintendo, as criminals." (Yes, I see the implications for SUGallery.) There are plenty of other people showing off WarioWare DIY games on YouTube. The only remotely "adult content" is fairly commonplace in YouTube Poop: four people saying "Dick" and Dr. Robotnik being word-trimmed into saying "penis" four times. You'd be surprised how computer illiterate some people still are; MediaFire + MediaWiki was the path of least resistance to get MediaOnto a PC at my aunt's house. --Tepples 13:51, 15 January 2011 (MST)
 * &larr;

I did not click on the link because, as I stated, I didn't know whether it was SFW and/or legal. Also, since most IP edits on this talk page are spambots, I was a little too quick to assume bad faith. I forgot to actually check the contributions of that IP (despite typing out a wikilink for that purpose) to see that it had edited before. All in all, sorry if I was rude. Eighty5cacao 14:05, 15 January 2011 (MST)

Edit filter
Should I consider installing the edit filter extension to stop common spam patterns? --Tepples 22:26, 6 February 2011 (MST)
 * I'm in favor, but I'm very slightly concerned about how it could affect server performance. Some other measures we could take first:
 * Restrict account creation (so that you have to manually approve and create new accounts)
 * Restrict page moving to sysops, or to a new "pagemover" group (which would include you and me), and create a corresponding template
 * That would stymie the spammers who register and draft spam in userspace before moving it to mainspace, but it wouldn't help with the IPs who spam here. Eighty5cacao 22:35, 6 February 2011 (MST)
 * I don't want to block editing of talk pages by IPs, as I often post links to mini-rants on various forums (especially Slashdot) phrased as requests for comment. As for restricting account creation, would you have signed up if I had done that? You're right about restricting move to autoconfirmed users; I think WP does the same. But that wouldn't stop the malformed-external-link spam that we've been getting, which is what prompted me to consider edit filter in the first place. As for performance, edit filter is supposed to affect performance only for "Save page", moves, and other actions that it traps. I'd have installed anti-spoof and edit filter already, but installing extensions that create tables is tricky to do on hosting plans lacking shell access. --Tepples 06:32, 7 February 2011 (MST)
 * Re ...would you have signed up if I had done that?: Yes, provided that there were no requirement to demonstrate activity on another board in the topic, as there is with NESdev. (Uncyclopedia isn't quite in topic.) In fact, in uncyc:User talk:Tepples and email, I guessed that such a policy was already in place.
 * I didn't say anything about protecting talk pages. I was admitting that the edit filter is probably necessary for such cases. Eighty5cacao 08:50, 7 February 2011 (MST)
 * &larr;

For what it's worth, the latest rash of "certification" spam appears to be a major cross-wiki issue extending at least to Uncyclopedia. Eighty5cacao 14:05, 8 February 2011 (MST)
 * The page move privilege now requires an account to be four days old. This should keep spambots from moving userspace spam pages into mainspace, except the more sophisticated ones that use sleeper accounts. --Tepples 18:43, 12 February 2011 (MST)
 * File uploading also needs to be restricted to autoconfirmed (or is there something I'm missing here?) Eighty5cacao 21:57, 13 February 2011 (MST)
 * Done. I wonder how many spambots this change will crash, or whether the spambots will continue past the failed upload. I also installed anti-spoof so that we can let it settle for a few days to shake out any problems before I install edit filter. --Tepples 18:56, 14 February 2011 (MST)
 * This is a test to make sure that anti-spoof isn't breaking legitimate edits. --184.18.250.162 11:02, 15 February 2011 (MST)
 * &larr;

Time to actually write some filters perhaps? (Admittedly, I can't see what regex would be appropriate for the recent user account creations.) Eighty5cacao 19:01, 11 March 2011 (MST)
 * Don't worry; I know exactly the pattern to the spam. I followed links from the spam article to other wikis that had been spammed far more heavily. (Admins can see articles even after they're deleted.) In fact, I went and registered and blanked a bunch of spam pages on a few of those wikis. So once these accounts start to post OT trash after four days of having an account, I should be able to filter it. As for the usernames, I don't necessarily think a regex is possible without unacceptable false positives. I've written a bunch of computer programs that pseudorandomly generate plausible names for fictional characters. In fact, my nick is such an output (cf. Uncyc), and one of the reasons I got involved with BumpityBoo is that his nick matches the pattern of the naming program I wrote the same day. --Tepples 20:04, 11 March 2011 (MST)
 * Ok. Just to acknowledge that I was already aware of what uncyc:User:Tepples says. Eighty5cacao 21:53, 11 March 2011 (MST)

New to here
Hey just joining, glad to be here! I search ahead to partcipating and have go through a lot so far, so hello! I've been involved in some other forums and have found this area to have significantly improved content, so it tends to make sense to last but not least submit! BTW, what can I do to change the time zone for my account? It's kind of weird having the time like 5 hours off lol --109.230.246.24
 * First, you have to actually make an account and log in, and then you can change your time zone in Special:Preferences. If you have ideas for an article related to the stuff we're working on, feel free to log in and write a draft in a user subpage. And if you're ESL, don't worry about your grammar, as we have regulars who clean it up. --Tepples 06:06, 11 February 2011 (MST)

Suplementy
Hello everyone First of all sorry that I write in this topic but I have some technical problem with the use of this forum. When I'm trying to enter in the appropriate topic, I received a 404 error It's about the only topic in which I was able to enter. Do you have the same problems? What's going on? --unsigned post by 210.212.123.10
 * Can you please give the exact error message you are getting? Can you register an account and try again? Eighty5cacao 00:19, 17 February 2011 (MST)

end6 is dead; long live end6
Slashdot reports that multiple successors to the dead end6 have appeared: ie6-upgrade-warning and even one made by Microsoft. Good idea or bad idea to put one of these on the front page? --Tepples 07:27, 5 March 2011 (MST)
 * I am in favor of having some such thing, although I can't say right now which of those two choices is better. Eighty5cacao 10:54, 5 March 2011 (MST)

Yeast infection
Great post Yeast Infection really like it. Waiting to see some more posts! --unsigned (199.15.234.26)
 * We don't have any articles about yeast infections here. Could you please clarify? Eighty5cacao 19:22, 5 March 2011 (MST)

Introducing me!
Introducing myself as I just am becoming a member, glad to be here! I look forward to partcipating and have examine a whole lot so far, so hello! I've been involved without much expertise in the internet and have discovered this area to be very much more desirable subject material, so it helps make sense to last but not least contribute back! BTW where is the option to change the time zone for my account? It's kind of weird having the time like 5 hours off lol I just got a new phone, so it would be very helpful for me. Amazing how even a trainer needs so many electronics now! --unsigned (109.230.220.244)
 * You don't appear to be logged into an account yet. Do you need any help creating an account or logging in? If you are browsing the site from your phone, it may help our troubleshooting to tell us what model of phone it is. Finally, what kind of "trainer" are you? Eighty5cacao 12:30, 23 March 2011 (MST)
 * It's a C-Gear. Gotta catch 'em all. --Tepples 13:50, 23 March 2011 (MST)
 * Ok. Sorry for being too lazy to google the spam text, again. Eighty5cacao 14:23, 23 March 2011 (MST)

Looking Forward To Getting Involved
Thanks...this looks really interesting. I am looking forward to having my says! --unsigned post by 46.17.96.43
 * What do you plan to post about after you've registered? --Tepples 06:06, 9 April 2011 (MST)